Elena:
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--J
On Feb 4, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Elena Dent wrote:
> Well, two problems with that essay. To respond I must be a 'member'
> and
> that means giving them my e-dress which I'm loathe to do. The second
> is
> that I can't quite make out what the writer is trying to say, other
> than
> he's against the extremists. But he rather sounds like one himself.
> So let
> me paraphrase what I think he's saying, maybe I missed something.
>
> On the face of it, members of group A burning the holy book of group
> B in
> retaliation for Group B burning the national emblem of group A is not
> going
> to calm the situation down. Quite the opposite, as of course Group B
> knows
> and I rather wonder just how many Group A extremists there really ARE
> who
> want to burn those holy books. It would really suit the paranoid in
> me to
> say "Ah, so Group B dresses up as Group A, burns something that looks
> like
> or may even BE Group B holy books, and all hell breaks loose on Group
> A who,
> on the face of it, did nothing but state the obvious. which is:
>
> A paper exercised its legal right to publish satire. The offense
> taken to
> the satire was [blown] out of proportion to the point of the thing
> and the
> publisher apologized, because their purpose was to make a point, not
> start a
> fight. In civilized society this is the end of the story because the
> paper's government can't and shouldn't do more than say, "We wish thay
> hadn't written that." Or if they're smart dismiss it as a
> manufactured issue
> by extremists.
>
> If the only text I've seen of the "offensive joke" was valid, moderate
> Moslems would find some wry humor in Mohammed shown saying, "Hey, cut
> down
> on the suicide bombings guys, we're running out of virgins for you in
> Paradise." I would venture a guess that almost NONE of the people
> 'outraged'
> over the cartoons have seen them (they are banned and people have
> been fired
> for republishing them so that their own readers can assess the
> 'offense' for
> themselves) And the real "outrage" expressed is over the Danish
> government's
> refusal to do anything to harm a paper exercising its legal rights.
>
> What has, of course, completely been ignored is that all religions
> eventually get satirized. Sometimes by their own adherents. Maybe
> that's
> what's completely cheesing off the Muslim clerics? What if their own
> people
> start ...gasp... laughing at them!!! It's very difficult to feel
> outraged
> and martyred by being laughed at. It's much more humiliating to be
> laughed
> at and left to live than tortured to death. Once you're dead your
> troubles
> are over and you don't have to face the results of your stupidity.
>
> I read a few of the comments and man, I've never seen so many trolls
> in one
> place before.
>
> Elena
>
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> Subject: [OliveStarlightOrchestra] Free Speech and Irreverent Cartoons
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>
> Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom is looking for comments here, and
> wants a broad spectrum of political philosophies represented in his
> post on the controversy over those Danish cartoons:
>
> http://www.proteinwisdom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/19801/
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