Re: Re: Back in the Saddle

From: Joy McCann <jmmccann_at_sbcglobal.net_at_hypermail.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:18:26 -0700

Mike: you're too smart; your response made my head hurt, and I thought
I found this stuff fairly interesting.

OTOH, I had a long day at work, and I have to get up early to work on
stuff for writing group and Debtors Anonymous. I need to shed some of
my obligations and just sleep. Like, soon. So there's the exhaustion
thing happening.

Therefore, I'll re-read your note later. I certainly knew that you'd
weigh in on this at some point. I'll bet you and Bis could talk for
hours about this stuff. If I had as many facts in my head as you did in
yours my skull would burst. There's be Joy-brains all over the house.

--J

On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Michael Marinacci wrote:

> Not exactly.  "Protestant" churches are all those sects who can trace
> their
> origins and *raisons d'etre* to Martin Luther and/or John Calvin. The
> Anglican Communion split from Rome for very different reasons, at a
> different time.
>
> In some ways, Anglicanism is almost like the Orthodoxy of
> English-speaking
> peoples, since it reflected a separation of an Apostolic, Catholic
> communion
> from Rome, rather than an attempt to establish a radically different
> form of
> Christian theology and organizational structure.  An even better
> comparison
> would be to their sister churches on the Continent -- the European Old
> Catholics -- who left Rome after Vatican I's doctrinal innovations,
> yet are
> still considered "Catholic" albeit non-Roman.
>
> As for the Melkites: the RCC includes several "Eastern Rite"
> jurisdictions
> numbering many millions of people.  They're essentially Orthodox who
> answer
> to the Patriarch of Rome.  (Compare these to Rome's "Anglican Usage"
> parishes or the Orthodox "Western Rite" groups, which are composed
> largely
> of ex-Anglicans still getting used to life on the far side of the
> Bosporus
> or the Tiber.)
>
>
>
>
> Episcopalians are Protestants.
>
> And there's the unfortunate issue of the origins of Anglicanism. After
> all, a girl could really lose her head over a hunky monarch, once upon
> a time.
>
> --Q.M.
>
> On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Elena Dent wrote:
>
> > Aramaic is the liturgical language of the Melkites. How may there
> > are, I
> >  haven't a clue. They're called 'Greek Rite' by the Roman Catholic
> > church
> >  and were, at one time, the only 'church' I'd ever heard of whose
> > rites were
> >  completely accepted by the Catholic Church (notorious for being
> > unwilling to
> >  accept anyone, even Episcopalians)
> >
> >  Elena
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com
> >  [mailto:OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> > tschibasch
> >  Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:56 AM
> >  To: OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com
> >  Subject: [OliveStarlightOrchestra] Re: Back in the Saddle
> >
> >
> >  --- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, Joy McCann
> >  <jmmccann_at_...> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > BTW, can't ANYONE tell me what it was like to have Hebrew
> > essentially
> >  > resurrected as a language after it was nearly dead, used only in
> >  > temples/synogogues (DO, pls. fix spelling there; thanks). I mean,
> >  > hadn't Hebrew fallen entirely into rare use--similar to the
> > situation
> >  > with Latin before Vatican II? How do we know how close the
> >  > pronunciations are now to what they were a few thousand years
> ago?
> >  >
> >  > --J
> >
> >  The fact that Hebrew was used for religious purposes means that it
> was
> >  never dead. And being so well maintained, the language should be
> close
> >  to how it sounded two thousand years ago. But bear in mind, at that
> >  early time Hebrew was not the dominant Semetic language of the
> Middle
> >  East. (Nor was Arabic, for that matter.) Classical Aramaic was the
> >  dominant one. Interesting how this language has all but
> disappeared!
> >  They say it exists in a few villages in Syria.
> >
> >  An interesting language that has truly died off is Ancient
> Egyptian.
> >  We have an idea how it sounded, since we have figured out the
> >  consonants and consonantal clusters. But the vowels are unknown. So
> >  our best efforts to reproduce it would have to be off.
> >
> >
> >  John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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