Re: Re: Voting alternative

From: LENNY SHAW <7visions_at_prodigy.net_at_hypermail.org>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:20:24 -0800 (PST)

Actually, Joy... your information is a little outdated...
The open primary that you refer to was used back in '98 but was discontinued before 2002.... Davis won exactly how David said he did..by taking advantage of the split within the GOP... 2002 was in fact a closed primary...
I share your thoughts about Davis. I am convinced that he is truly an android...True all politicians are money grubbing...they almost have to be...But Davis takes it to an absurdly high level of dastardly opportunism....
I love the story about the time that he met with a group form the CTA ( the state parent of my teacher's union) They met with him for over an hour discussing state education and budgeting. He was silent for the whole meeting and them said only " I need a million dollars from you guys) Class act...
In any case, any one of you want to join my quest to have California split from the US? Looking at the politics and culture of the rest of the country, vs. ours..it is tempting...In any case, the Demos have no one but themselves to blame. " Hey we support Bush's tax cut and his Iraq policy too. But vote for us"
So now most of the country becomes a polluted, mean spirited, corporate fiefdom. Just why ARE liberals so suicidal?
Lenny
 DNE44 <dne_at_dslextreme.com> wrote: Actually, what led to Simon's nomination was a brilliant bit of
politicking on Davis' part. By running attack ads against Riordan in
the primary race, he got Riordan to come out and state how much of a
centrist he is (including that he politically supports a woman's
right to choose). The negative ads raised Riordan's negative rating
and the state's conservative base of republicans then swung to Simon
enough to win Simon the primary. It wasn't crossover votes at all.

Also, while I am no fan of 'Governor Hair' (he is a politician in all
of the negative connotations of the word -- unethical, money-
grubbing, slick, etc. -- and he has an anti-personality to boot), he
has not really done 'immense damage' to the state. The energy crisis
was not his fault (deregulation was pre-Davis, and we've now seen
that the energy companies manipulated the market), and the state's
financial crisis is more due to the dot-com/tech bubble bursting (and
the subsequent loss or revenues) than with Davis' policy.

But he's still a repulsive wanker.

- David


--- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_y..., mayhem <meurtre_at_e...> wrote:
> In the case of the CA gubernatorial race, original sin is the
idiotic
> provision we have that allows anyone to vote in any party's
> primary--because, of course, NO ONE would dare to use that ability
for any
> but the highest purpose.
>
> So, naturally, people are free to cross party lines and vote for
the weaker
> candidate in the other party's primary contest. That's probably
what gave us
> Simon as the challenger to Davis, rather than Dick Riordon. And
Riordon
> might be a little vanilla/mainstream, but he 1) would have won
handily, and
> 2) is a capable manager. Had he attained the governership, he might
have
> been able to undo some of the immense damage "Governor Hair" has
done to
> this state.
>
> --J
>
> * * *
>
> They already have that alternative on Nevada state ballots. To my
> knowledge, "None" has never won a race there.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Georgie Hinklemyer" <samoolives_at_y...>
> To: <OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_y...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:32 AM
> Subject: [OliveStarlightOrchestra] Voting alternative
>
>
> > Thanks a lot, you political activists!

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