I actually knew about the Davis attack on Riordon, but found it distasteful
to rant about what amounts to free speech, however sleazily it's being used.
So I transferred my attention to the open primaries, thinking they made a
much better target. I hadn't heard they'd been shut down, and I thought they
came in by referendum, so that's interesting.
> Hey we support Bush's tax cut and his Iraq policy too. But vote
> for us"
That's one of the conventional interpretations, and I hope the Dems run with
it ;)
> So now most of the country becomes a polluted, mean spirited, corporate
> fiefdom.
Just the way I like it.
> Just why ARE liberals so suicidal?
Dunno. But it's morning in America again . . . . :) Think I'll have some
coffee.
--J
> Actually, Joy... your information is a little outdated...
> The open primary that you refer to was used back in '98 but was discontinued
> before 2002.... Davis won exactly how David said he did..by taking advantage
> of the split within the GOP... 2002 was in fact a closed primary...
> I share your thoughts about Davis. I am convinced that he is truly an
> android...True all politicians are money grubbing...they almost have to
> be...But Davis takes it to an absurdly high level of dastardly opportunism....
> I love the story about the time that he met with a group form the CTA ( the
> state parent of my teacher's union) They met with him for over an hour
> discussing state education and budgeting. He was silent for the whole meeting
> and them said only " I need a million dollars from you guys) Class act...
> In any case, any one of you want to join my quest to have California split
> from the US? Looking at the politics and culture of the rest of the country,
> vs. ours..it is tempting...In any case, the Demos have no one but themselves
> to blame. " Hey we support Bush's tax cut and his Iraq policy too. But vote
> for us"
> So now most of the country becomes a polluted, mean spirited, corporate
> fiefdom. Just why ARE liberals so suicidal?
> Lenny
> DNE44 <dne_at_dslextreme.com> wrote: Actually, what led to Simon's nomination was
> a brilliant bit of
> politicking on Davis' part. By running attack ads against Riordan in
> the primary race, he got Riordan to come out and state how much of a
> centrist he is (including that he politically supports a woman's
> right to choose). The negative ads raised Riordan's negative rating
> and the state's conservative base of republicans then swung to Simon
> enough to win Simon the primary. It wasn't crossover votes at all.
>
> Also, while I am no fan of 'Governor Hair' (he is a politician in all
> of the negative connotations of the word -- unethical, money-
> grubbing, slick, etc. -- and he has an anti-personality to boot), he
> has not really done 'immense damage' to the state. The energy crisis
> was not his fault (deregulation was pre-Davis, and we've now seen
> that the energy companies manipulated the market), and the state's
> financial crisis is more due to the dot-com/tech bubble bursting (and
> the subsequent loss or revenues) than with Davis' policy.
>
> But he's still a repulsive wanker.
>
> - David
>
>
> --- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_y..., mayhem <meurtre_at_e...> wrote:
>> In the case of the CA gubernatorial race, original sin is the
> idiotic
>> provision we have that allows anyone to vote in any party's
>> primary--because, of course, NO ONE would dare to use that ability
> for any
>> but the highest purpose.
>>
>> So, naturally, people are free to cross party lines and vote for
> the weaker
>> candidate in the other party's primary contest. That's probably
> what gave us
>> Simon as the challenger to Davis, rather than Dick Riordon. And
> Riordon
>> might be a little vanilla/mainstream, but he 1) would have won
> handily, and
>> 2) is a capable manager. Had he attained the governership, he might
> have
>> been able to undo some of the immense damage "Governor Hair" has
> done to
>> this state.
>>
>> --J
>>
>> * * *
>>
>> They already have that alternative on Nevada state ballots. To my
>> knowledge, "None" has never won a race there.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Georgie Hinklemyer" <samoolives_at_y...>
>> To: <OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_y...>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:32 AM
>> Subject: [OliveStarlightOrchestra] Voting alternative
>>
>>
>>> Thanks a lot, you political activists!
>
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