Re: John's feedback
> I found message #666 by Mike worth responding to. Sorry, but the
> Rachel Corrie jokes posted earlier were in poor taste; nor I did not
> find them especially funny.
I think you have to be in the right mood for gallows humor. But anyone
who has laughed at a princess Di joke or a JFK Jr. joke should be able
to live with these. (And . . . John! Would you like a reprise of some
of your youthful jests?)
> I think there is a similarity between Rachel Corrie and John Walker
> Lindh: Both were young people from affluent backgrounds, idealists
> thinking they have figured out what's wrong with the World and wanting
> to fix it. Imagine how driven they were - they left the comfort of
> their homes to struggle aloung with others in troubled Third World
> countries...
>
> I would say that being young, at least they have an excuse for such
> behavior! I think Mike's point of view is too harsh. Rachel would
> probably have changed her views on things if she had lived long enough.
>
> I have met people who joined organizations to help people in Africa,
> and lived there a few years. Sometimes even longer than that. They
> went over very excited and idealistic with a desire to help out
> oppressed peoples, and returned with a more realistic view of things:
> It's not as simple as they had thought.
What Mike said: there is a different between humanitarian assistance and
fomenting violence among people who have had plenty of it and simply long
for peace.
--Joy
>
> --- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, "Mikal" <mikalm_at_i...>
> wrote:
>> Sharose (and everyone else),
>>
>> I have zero regard for this waste of space and oxygen, who has now made
>> herself the woman to beat in the 2003 Darwin Awards.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> * Rachel Corrie was not some Palestinian toddler who wandered into
> the path
>> of an earthmover and got mowed down. She was an allegedly educated
> adult
>> who traveled halfway across the world, into a war zone, with the
> sole intent
>> of inflaming an already insane and deadly situation. The group she
> worked
>> there with has a stated goal of "armed liberation" of the Palestinian
>> region. Maybe I'm a little slow, but "armed liberation" seems to imply
>> shooting, war, violence, that sort of thing. Is it any wonder she met a
>> violent end under their tutelage?
>>
>> * She tried to agitate a mob of Palestinians against the U.S. and
> Israel by
>> burning an improvised American Flag in their midst. Don't believe me?
>> Check out these two pics, and then wonder why you haven't seen them
> in the
>> mainstream media:
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Pictures/rachel-corrie-flagburner.jpg
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Pictures/rachel-corrie-flag-02.jpg
>>
>> Does this look like the face of a loving, tolerant, nurturing
> person? Or
>> does it look like someone with serious anger problems, who chose
> political
>> violence rather than therapy as a way to deal with personal demons?
>>
>> * The bulldozer was a huge, armored ('dozer drivers get sniped at
> regularly
>> in these areas) vehicle with virtually zero visibility except at
>> straight-ahead 12-o'clock. I've know people who've worked on
> construction
>> sites and road crews, and they've all said to NEVER get near a mobile
>> earthmover for this reason...and they were talking about
> garden-variety ones
>> half the size of this behemoth.
>>
>> * As I said earlier, she was in a war zone -- the bulldozing was an IDF
>> operation, and was accompanied by a troop detail. Anyone not a trained,
>> armed combatant who enters such an area is taking an unimaginably stupid
>> risk with their life, and should be prepared to die in an ugly manner.
>>
>> * According to more than one eyewitness, she wasn't even standing in
> front
>> of the 'dozer. Those pics of her standing were taken earlier in the
> day, at
>> different sites (note that the shadows, light, and even the machine
> seem to
>> be different). The witnesses said that in but sitting on a mound of
> earth
>> well out of the sight range of the driver. It is quite possible
> that she
>> was killed not by being run over, but by the collapse of the earth
> mound as
>> the 'dozer caved it in from the side.
>>
>> * Whatever the scenario or exact cause of death, did she really
> think she
>> could get away with playing chicken with a moving 40-ton vehicle whose
>> driver couldn't see her clearly? Maybe my folks were a bit strict,
> but from
>> an early age I was taught not to run in front of cars for this
> reason. I
>> guess all that edumacation at Evergreen State University, and all those
>> activist circle-jerks, convinced her that the laws of physics and common
>> sense didn't apply to such an enlightened and progressive womyn as
> herself.
>>
>> * If she was so much against war and killing, then why did she waste her
>> time protecting ABANDONED BUILDINGS? Why didn't she, say, try to
> stop one
>> of the suicide bombings that claims Israeli lives on a weekly basis?
> The
>> answer: she was a moral coward who went up against Israel and America
>> because they were CIVILIZED DEMOCRACIES UNDER THE RULE OF LAW, who allow
>> idiots like this huge amounts of latitude to interfere with
> government and
>> private activities in the name of free speech. The very reason this
> case is
>> so publicized -- unlike, say, the ones about slave-freeing missionaries
>> being murdered in the Sudan -- is that it's an ANOMALY in Israel.
> Losers
>> like Corrie are looking for cheap and painless ways of making themselves
>> moral authorities and martyrs, since they can't advance themselves
> through
>> careers, relationships or other productive means of finding one's
> identity.
>> A REAL radical humanitarian -- one who was GENUINELY concerned about
> REAL
>> oppression and murder -- would have gone to Iraq, North Korea, the
> PA, or
>> any kleptocratic Third World toilet, and fought the epic brutality and
>> bloodlettings in such places. And of course, would have been
> whacked the
>> second they opened their mouth.
>>
>> Rachel Corrie has now joined the Idealistic Idiot Sisterhood,
> alongside Amy
>> Biehl, Lori Berenson, and Rosebud DeNovo -- disturbed, deluded women who
>> thought that their personal convictions justified their stupid
> politics, and
>> would protect them from the consequences of their suicidal antics.
> I know,
>> I know...it's their FEEEEEELINGS that are important. Well, I'm sure
> that
>> Road-Pizza Rachel had strong FEEEEELINGS. But because those strong
>> FEEELINGS weren't balanced by personal responsibility or common
> sense, she's
>> now not FEEEELING anything at all.
>>
>> In closing, I would say that my sympathy for some poor Iraqi draftee
> eating
>> sand and dodging bullets on behalf of a monster like Saddam, is about
>> 100,000 times that of mine for a deranged, self-hating terrorist enabler
>> like Rachel Corrie. The political culture and gene pool is
> healthier in her
>> absence.
>>
>> Mikal, the Heartless Reactionary Warmonger Zionist
>
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