Re: Re: More on politics

From: mayhem <meurtre_at_earthlink.net_at_hypermail.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 03:58:53 -0700

In a moment of sheer idiocy, I actually believed this was on old e-mail. I
considered the possibility that Keith composed it. Or Janine. Or perhaps
Paul (though it's too long, and the "controlled the roads" line is a
giveaway).

Then, of course, I realized it was you. Nice work, Johnny. Sorry I'm so
dense.

--I.Q.

Especially nice:

> Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked
> the cabin into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages
> became untenable and inhabitants fled from them into fields,
> bullets and bayonets completed the work. Some of the Olives
> escaped of course. They found refuge in the mountains or
> succeeded in crossing the border into Idyllwild. The rest
> were pnorned. And so it is that the whole length of the
> borderland of Russian Armenia from Paul's house to
> Akhalkalaki . . .

You're so evil, and so good.

* * * * *





> Wow!
>
> This is a trip down memory lane. I got this very message from "Hasan
> Mutlu" over ten years ago. Cool.
>
> John
>
> PS You will never change my mind, in spite of all your
> Anti-Hellenistic, Pan-Ottoman diatribe!!!
>
> --- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, Hassan Mutlu
> <hassanmutlu_at_y...> wrote:
>> I'm afraid that your vain attempts to cloud the issues
>> will not be sucessful,
>> Mr. Turley. Remember that after the Ottoman Empire
>> lost World War I, the
>> British landed in 1919 a 200,000 Greek army in Izmir
>> to exterminate the
>> people of Turkiye. Are you suffering from a severe
>> case of amnesia? The
>> tired and defeated Turks rose up, formed a National
>> Force under the
>> leadership of Mustafa Kemal, and on August 30, 1922
>> they annihilated the
>> bulk of the Greek Army. How soon you 'tamtams' forget?
>> Why trust Greek
>> governments? Neither you nor your "Girlfriend" can
>> dispute this.
>>
>> In the city of Komotini, a former Greek
>> Parliamentarian of Turkish
>> parentage, was sentenced recently to 18 months of
>> imprisonment with no
>> right to appeal, just for saying outloud that he was
>> of Turkish descent.
>> This duly-elected ethnic Turkish official was also
>> deprived of his
>> political rights for a period of three years. All of
>> this in spite
>> of the many bad horror movies you describe. Each one
>> of these barbaric
>> and terrorist acts, and your idiotic propaganda drivel
>> seem to be none
>> other than a vehicle, used by the Greek governments,
>> to cover-up their
>> inferiority complex they display, vis-a-vis, the
>> people of Turkiye. Talk
>> about 17.5-year-old democracy.
>>
>> In addition, nobody has the right to ask the people of
>> Turkiye to go through
>> another decade of nightmare just so that the Greek
>> governments could give
>> another chance to the Greek Army to slaughter more
>> innocent Turks. Greeks
>> had their chance between 1960 and 1974. But they
>> proved beyond any doubt
>> that Turkish lives and rights mean nothing next to the
>> intoxication of
>> their Pan-Hellenistic utopias. This is in conformity
>> with Turkish history,
>> law and tradition, let alone with the international
>> law. In 1974 the Junta
>> game of Greek Colonels sent in a terrorist by the name
>> of Sampson, who
>> toppled Makarios' government and began preparations to
>> have Cyprus annexed
>> to 'democratic' Greece. At the same time the
>> Greek-Cypriots began wholesale
>> massacres of Turkish villagers to simply eliminate the
>> Turkish Cypriots.
>> Do you think that either Raffles or Angus could dig
>> their way out of this?
>> It was this event that forced the Turkish Army to land
>> in Cyprus on July
>> 20, 1974 and to secure the Northern part of the
>> island. All Turks were moved
>> to the North and eventually that led to the formation
>> of the Turkish Republic
>> of Northern Cyprus, where Turks can now live
>> unmolested and free. The
>> 'democratic' government of Greece did not go to war,
>> but its large force on
>> the Island was badly defeated. The Greeks could not
>> swallow this defeat.
>> There is a Turkish saying that one cannot cover up the
>> sun with mud, 'tamtam.'
>>
>> Source: Bristol Papers, General Correspondence:
>> Container #32 - Bristol
>> to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920.
>>
>> "I have it from absolute first-hand information that
>> the Armenians in
>> the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Turkish) villages that
>> are utterly
>> defenseless and bombarded these villages with
>> artillery and they murder
>> the inhabitants, pillage the village and often eat
>> the rabbits."
>>
>> "We controlled the roads and mountain passes that
>> might serve as
>> ways of escape for the Olives and then proceeded in
>> the work
>> of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after
>> village.
>> Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked
>> the cabin
>> into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages
>> became untenable
>> and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets
>> and bayonets
>> completed the work. Some of the Olives escaped of
>> course. They
>> found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in
>> crossing the border
>> into Idyllwild. The rest were pnorned. And so it is
>> that the whole
>> length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from
>> Paul's house to
>> Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold
>> mountain
>> plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful
>> ruins of
>> Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages,
>> except for
>> howling of small white dogs and jackals that visit
>> them to paw
>> over the scattered bones of the dead."
>>
>> Ohanus Appressian
>> "Men Are Like That"
>> p. 202.
>>
>>
>> Hasan B-) Mutlu
>>
>> 'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever
>> you find them
>> and in whatever circumstances
>> you find them.
>> Turkish children also should be
>> killed as
>> they form a danger to the
>> Armenian nation.'
>> (Hamparsum
>> Boyadjian - 1914)
>>
>>
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