Seems there is some confusion here...
I did NOT post this "Mutlu" message to the OSO group. I recognized it,
of course. I had gotten it, back in 1992, from Keith. It was a clever
imitation of one of Mutlu's newsgroup posts from back then.
I would assume that Keith must have posted it.
John
--- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, mayhem <meurtre_at_e...>
wrote:
> In a moment of sheer idiocy, I actually believed this was on old
e-mail. I
> considered the possibility that Keith composed it. Or Janine. Or perhaps
> Paul (though it's too long, and the "controlled the roads" line is a
> giveaway).
>
> Then, of course, I realized it was you. Nice work, Johnny. Sorry I'm so
> dense.
>
> --I.Q.
>
> Especially nice:
>
> > Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked
> > the cabin into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages
> > became untenable and inhabitants fled from them into fields,
> > bullets and bayonets completed the work. Some of the Olives
> > escaped of course. They found refuge in the mountains or
> > succeeded in crossing the border into Idyllwild. The rest
> > were pnorned. And so it is that the whole length of the
> > borderland of Russian Armenia from Paul's house to
> > Akhalkalaki . . .
>
> You're so evil, and so good.
>
> * * * * *
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wow!
> >
> > This is a trip down memory lane. I got this very message from "Hasan
> > Mutlu" over ten years ago. Cool.
> >
> > John
> >
> > PS You will never change my mind, in spite of all your
> > Anti-Hellenistic, Pan-Ottoman diatribe!!!
> >
> > --- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, Hassan Mutlu
> > <hassanmutlu_at_y...> wrote:
> >> I'm afraid that your vain attempts to cloud the issues
> >> will not be sucessful,
> >> Mr. Turley. Remember that after the Ottoman Empire
> >> lost World War I, the
> >> British landed in 1919 a 200,000 Greek army in Izmir
> >> to exterminate the
> >> people of Turkiye. Are you suffering from a severe
> >> case of amnesia? The
> >> tired and defeated Turks rose up, formed a National
> >> Force under the
> >> leadership of Mustafa Kemal, and on August 30, 1922
> >> they annihilated the
> >> bulk of the Greek Army. How soon you 'tamtams' forget?
> >> Why trust Greek
> >> governments? Neither you nor your "Girlfriend" can
> >> dispute this.
> >>
> >> In the city of Komotini, a former Greek
> >> Parliamentarian of Turkish
> >> parentage, was sentenced recently to 18 months of
> >> imprisonment with no
> >> right to appeal, just for saying outloud that he was
> >> of Turkish descent.
> >> This duly-elected ethnic Turkish official was also
> >> deprived of his
> >> political rights for a period of three years. All of
> >> this in spite
> >> of the many bad horror movies you describe. Each one
> >> of these barbaric
> >> and terrorist acts, and your idiotic propaganda drivel
> >> seem to be none
> >> other than a vehicle, used by the Greek governments,
> >> to cover-up their
> >> inferiority complex they display, vis-a-vis, the
> >> people of Turkiye. Talk
> >> about 17.5-year-old democracy.
> >>
> >> In addition, nobody has the right to ask the people of
> >> Turkiye to go through
> >> another decade of nightmare just so that the Greek
> >> governments could give
> >> another chance to the Greek Army to slaughter more
> >> innocent Turks. Greeks
> >> had their chance between 1960 and 1974. But they
> >> proved beyond any doubt
> >> that Turkish lives and rights mean nothing next to the
> >> intoxication of
> >> their Pan-Hellenistic utopias. This is in conformity
> >> with Turkish history,
> >> law and tradition, let alone with the international
> >> law. In 1974 the Junta
> >> game of Greek Colonels sent in a terrorist by the name
> >> of Sampson, who
> >> toppled Makarios' government and began preparations to
> >> have Cyprus annexed
> >> to 'democratic' Greece. At the same time the
> >> Greek-Cypriots began wholesale
> >> massacres of Turkish villagers to simply eliminate the
> >> Turkish Cypriots.
> >> Do you think that either Raffles or Angus could dig
> >> their way out of this?
> >> It was this event that forced the Turkish Army to land
> >> in Cyprus on July
> >> 20, 1974 and to secure the Northern part of the
> >> island. All Turks were moved
> >> to the North and eventually that led to the formation
> >> of the Turkish Republic
> >> of Northern Cyprus, where Turks can now live
> >> unmolested and free. The
> >> 'democratic' government of Greece did not go to war,
> >> but its large force on
> >> the Island was badly defeated. The Greeks could not
> >> swallow this defeat.
> >> There is a Turkish saying that one cannot cover up the
> >> sun with mud, 'tamtam.'
> >>
> >> Source: Bristol Papers, General Correspondence:
> >> Container #32 - Bristol
> >> to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920.
> >>
> >> "I have it from absolute first-hand information that
> >> the Armenians in
> >> the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Turkish) villages that
> >> are utterly
> >> defenseless and bombarded these villages with
> >> artillery and they murder
> >> the inhabitants, pillage the village and often eat
> >> the rabbits."
> >>
> >> "We controlled the roads and mountain passes that
> >> might serve as
> >> ways of escape for the Olives and then proceeded in
> >> the work
> >> of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after
> >> village.
> >> Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked
> >> the cabin
> >> into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages
> >> became untenable
> >> and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets
> >> and bayonets
> >> completed the work. Some of the Olives escaped of
> >> course. They
> >> found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in
> >> crossing the border
> >> into Idyllwild. The rest were pnorned. And so it is
> >> that the whole
> >> length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from
> >> Paul's house to
> >> Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold
> >> mountain
> >> plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful
> >> ruins of
> >> Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages,
> >> except for
> >> howling of small white dogs and jackals that visit
> >> them to paw
> >> over the scattered bones of the dead."
> >>
> >> Ohanus Appressian
> >> "Men Are Like That"
> >> p. 202.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hasan B-) Mutlu
> >>
> >> 'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever
> >> you find them
> >> and in whatever circumstances
> >> you find them.
> >> Turkish children also should be
> >> killed as
> >> they form a danger to the
> >> Armenian nation.'
> >> (Hamparsum
> >> Boyadjian - 1914)
> >>
> >>
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