Re: Just read this.

From: Hiram Gonash <okfreddy_at_hotmail.com_at_hypermail.org>
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:21:13 -0000

Even if we could create a universe does not mean that we were created
by some superior being. You do however understand my meaning perfectly
- how can we separate ourselves from "God" if we're all the same on
the basic level? But I question the need for worship and dogma. If
"God" is just a physical force there's no need for Worship of Mass
Dogma - you don't see Physicists kneeling and praising WIMPs and
Quarks. Eliminate the WoMD and you eliminate much grief in the world.
If "God" is more than Physics, well, I'd like to see some proof of
that...

BTW, read Dan Brown's Angels & Demons for a fun read about playing
God.

--Harry Tick

--- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, "7visions"
<7visions_at_p...> wrote:
>
> "The followers feel a
> > (superior) separation from the rest of society. Us vs Them. God
> > usually ends up nothing more than a tool...
> >
> > , I believe in some great universal 'force' and some may
> > call it God *BUT* it's not necessarily an entity > "
>
> Dean oh great metaphysician that he is, implies a great deal here..
.Or, if
> I may he provides something that I can extrapolate into the nether
regions
> with.
>
> What Dean rejects is a certain DUALISM...I am HERE...God is THERE.
He is
> DISTANT ...Well maybe not...
>
> Look at it this way:. Why do we even HAVE consciousness? Here is a
new type
> of conceit....sometimes referred to as the ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE.
Maybe we
> humans, and all those intelligent ET's out there who are also
capable of
> consciousness, are SIMPLY THE PART OF THE UNIVERSE THAT IS BECOMING
AWARE OF
> ITSELF
>
> ...Quick... Cue the trippy and profound music...
>
> IF that is the case, then how CAN we separate ourselves from God? We
emerged
> from this starstuff, from the remnants of some long ago supernova
that
> blasted out long before our star system was even thought of. So we
are Part
> of it - NOT APart of it.
>
> But then, just what is behind all those supernovas anyway?....
>
> Well try this one on for size.... NOW IT REALLY GETS WEIRD....
>
> It has been said that we are near the point where we will be able to
use
> particle accelerators to in effect recreate the conditions at the
time of
> the Big Bang ( which does NOT refer to John's use of fireworks and
bottle
> rockets near the 4th of July By the way)
>
> So uh...let's create a Universe here.... Well, SHEEIT, Who or what
does
> THAT sound like?????.....
>
> But maybe that has happened before...Maybe that IS how OUR Universe
was
> created....
>
> And more physicists, and not just mystics and acidheads, talk about
a
> Multiverse.... read Stephen Hawking and Alan Guth on Baby Universes.
By this
> model, there are a veritable BUBBLEBATH of Universes out there...
some of the
> bubbles take and become real BIG FAT LONG LASTING UNIVERSES, and
some fizzle
> before they even start. And some are created by particle
accelerators by
> humans and entities in other Universes....?????
>
> And where ARE they?... How bout other dimensions...which means that
they are
> utterly impossible to reach, yet may be literally in front of your
nose.
>
> KEEWWWL!!!!!!
>
> Lenny
>
> P.S: I know what you are thinking. But you are wrong. I am totally
sober.
Received on 2003-06-02 08:21:25