Re: The Great CA-CA Debate

From: Georgie Hinklemyer <samoolives_at_yahoo.com_at_hypermail.org>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 04:52:22 -0000

Hiram,
I have to agree with you on several points. However:

1. Arnie Baby. He wasn't just an actor. I believe he is sincere.
However, I don't think he's got any clue how to run a government. Yes,
he is very determined. (And I thought his closing argument was
actually a GOOD thing: "I can accomplish whatever I set my mind to do.
") But he was all generalities and no specifics.

2. Mc Clintock. Straight man. I give him my utmost respect. He is
sincere, honest, and has very carefully considered plans on how to get
things done. He knows the system and can finally make it work.
However, I don't agree with all of his goals. No vote from me.

3. King Camejo-mejo. (I apologise. He didn't deserve that at all.) Is
he living in a world slightly different than the rest of us? Some of
his viewpoints and solutions didn't sound related to the current
California situation. Good debater, definite plans for improving
things, as he sees them. I don't agree with him.

4. Ms. Aireanna. As I told Ozzy before the debate, she's going to be
the harridan. She was. More interested in attacking than making
herself look good. Very entertaining, but not a leader. Bye bye.

5. Tom Slick. Mr. Bustamonte was in terrific form tonight. Smirking
at everyone whenever they interrupted him as if to say, "I can wait
while you make a fool of yourself." Answering the questions - AFTER
pushing his agenda first. I thought his closing 2-minute statement was
very good. "I came from a poor family, etc., etc." But I've also
heard the other things he's said, and not just at this 5-ring circus.
I believe he knows the value of a dollar - in his own pocket. I can't
see things improving too much under him.

Which leaves...what? Back to Davis? 'Fraid so. I'm voting against the
recall.

Can anyone convince me otherwise? PLEASE?!?!?

--G.Hinklemeyer


--- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, "Hiram Gonash"
<okfreddy_at_h...> wrote:
> Random Thoughts about the Great Debate
>
> It was one of the best entertainment values I've seen in a long
time.
> The 5 candidates were unalike enough and, for the most part,
volatile
> enough to make for a great show. Add to it an incompetent moderator
> who had the evening's best line (about reducing his meds) - such
fun.
> It should be a weekly show.
>
> Arnold, I thought, came across as nothing more than an actor,
someone
> who has little to offer without a script. He came across as a rich
> superstar and not much more. His closing remark about wanting to
give
> something back to the state for his success, I felt, implied that he
> hadn't given enough to begin with. It just didn't sound right. He
had
> too many cliches, too many sound bites. After initial early applause
> for one bite, he rceived no further applause. No vote for him.
>
> McClintock, on the other hand, gained tremendously by offering
> solutions to problems. I disagree with his basic positions though -
no
> vote for him because of those positions. (10-1 Joy votes for this
guy)
> I felt however that he should NOT bow out of the race just to unify
> the Republicans. He is a valid alternative to Arnold and perhaps the
> better candidate of the two.
>
> Camejo had some good ideas which I agreed with. The only thing
holding
> me back from voting for him is that he wasn't aggressive enough in
the
> debate. He didn't interrupt, no smart comebacks, nothing. He may
have
> done it,as he said, out of respect but in Politics you have to be
> aggressive. As Governor you have to be the Leader. You have to show
> some backbone or you will be trampled. No vote for him but some
> respect.
>
> Arianna (or 'Ms. Camejo' as Stan the Mod Med Man called her) had the
> aggressiveness and some of the best comebacks and putdowns. To
Arnold:
> "We'll see who can talk louder with an accent!" Her problem was that
> she had plenty of attack but little solutions. I wouldn't feel
> comfortable voting for her though I agree with many of her
complaints
> about the system. No vote for her but I enjoyed watching her.
>
> Bustamante was ultra-slick with a pleasant speaking voice. I noticed
> he always agreed with the other candidates on some points. He was
very
> positive and showed great leadership. On the other hand I wouldn't
> trust him to babysit my penny jar. No vote for him but if he ever
> records Steinbeck - I'm buying.
>
> A great, fun debate but I still can't decide who will receive my
vote.
>
> If only Mary Carey were there...
>
> -Ozzy
>
> P.S. Lenny should become a moderator. He could do no worse than
Stan.
Received on 2003-09-24 21:52:24