There were toy promotions etc with The Incredibles but the main, most important thing about that movie was the story and the characters. Yes, it was animation. But consider Mirage and Mr. Incredible's banter; a child would never recognize the flirting going on under that, an adult does. A kid would probably identify most with Dash and Violet, adults identify with and feel sympathetic to the parents. And even Syndrome makes sense; he's not 'evil because that's his persona', he is the way he is for logical reasons.
I don't mind toys as spinoffs from the movie, but I really object to a movie whose sole reason for existing is as an advert for toys and games - like the whole StarWars(tm) merchandising gig. I've seen the online game, and it IS beautiful and brilliantly crafted. Hm; actually the StarWars(tm) universe, even more than the StarTrek(tm) universe have spawned games, books, an entire fan universe which really has sparked genuine creativity in its fans. There are fan generated stories which are really good in their own right. Perhaps because the fans wish so much to see REAL stories in this gorgeous universe Lucas spawned. It's kinda scary though, a friend of a friend is addicted to the StarWars online game - he HAS to spend four or five hours every night and at least twice that every Saturday and Sunday because he's so wrapped up in a guild thingie he's in. I gotta admit, you have to pay me to spend that much time on something.
Elena
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I think focusing exclusively on what's "toyetic" may be destructive,
but there were plenty of cross-promotions with The Incredibles, so I
don't really think the two values are mutually exclusive. One problem
is that often when the marketing people are driving development, there
are too many "main characters," and the viewer isn't sure whom to
identify with.
I think Lucas' stuff is starting to suck because the people around him
are afraid to say "no"--and because he's writing his own dialogue,
which is a mistake.
--J
On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Elena Dent wrote:
> One can hope; Disney provided two things to Spirited Away's success:
> excellent voice talent and monster marketing. These are Disney's very
> strong points as story telling and gorgeous animation are Miazaki's.
> Now,
> should Disney continue in this vein with Pixar, adding its strengths
> and
> leaving Pixar to do what IT does best (tell stories in fine animation)
> that's indeed good news.
>
> But I wonder how long Disney will resist the temptation to use the
> animations as springboards for product sales, the way Lucas has so
> very
> clearly done with devastating results for plot, story and characters
> in his
> own franchise.
>
> Elena
>
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> Thoughts?
>
> --J
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