Re: Re: Back in the Saddle

From: Joy McCann <jmmccann_at_sbcglobal.net_at_hypermail.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:45:57 -0700

My sister is Syrian orthodox.

--J
Apr 12, 2006, at 10:39 PM, Elena Dent wrote:

> Websurfing several years ago did suggest to this former Catholic that
> the Anglican church's organization is far more like the various
> Orthodox churches than like Rome's.  Raised in the West, we didn't
> hear much at all about the myriad Eastern churches, beyond names like
> Nestorian or Coptic.  There are also far more good books on the
> history of places east of the Rhine now too.
>
> Elena
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Michael
> Marinacci
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:23 PM
> To: OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [OliveStarlightOrchestra] Re: Back in the Saddle
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> Not exactly.  "Protestant" churches are all those sects who can trace
> their
> origins and *raisons d'etre* to Martin Luther and/or John Calvin. The
> Anglican Communion split from Rome for very different reasons, at a
> different time.
>
> In some ways, Anglicanism is almost like the Orthodoxy of
> English-speaking
> peoples, since it reflected a separation of an Apostolic, Catholic
> communion
> from Rome, rather than an attempt to establish a radically different
> form of
> Christian theology and organizational structure.  An even better
> comparison
> would be to their sister churches on the Continent -- the European Old
> Catholics -- who left Rome after Vatican I's doctrinal innovations,
> yet are
> still considered "Catholic" albeit non-Roman.
>
> As for the Melkites: the RCC includes several "Eastern Rite"
> jurisdictions
> numbering many millions of people.  They're essentially Orthodox who
> answer
> to the Patriarch of Rome.  (Compare these to Rome's "Anglican Usage"
> parishes or the Orthodox "Western Rite" groups, which are composed
> largely
> of ex-Anglicans still getting used to life on the far side of the
> Bosporus
> or the Tiber.)
>
>
>
>
> Episcopalians are Protestants.
>
> And there's the unfortunate issue of the origins of Anglicanism. After
> all, a girl could really lose her head over a hunky monarch, once upon
> a time.
>
> --Q.M.
>
> On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Elena Dent wrote:
>
> > Aramaic is the liturgical language of the Melkites. How may there
> > are, I
> >  haven't a clue. They're called 'Greek Rite' by the Roman Catholic
> > church
> >  and were, at one time, the only 'church' I'd ever heard of whose
> > rites were
> >  completely accepted by the Catholic Church (notorious for being
> > unwilling to
> >  accept anyone, even Episcopalians)
> >
> >  Elena
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com
> >  [mailto:OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> > tschibasch
> >  Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:56 AM
> >  To: OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com
> >  Subject: [OliveStarlightOrchestra] Re: Back in the Saddle
> >
> >
> >  --- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, Joy McCann
> >  <jmmccann_at_...> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > BTW, can't ANYONE tell me what it was like to have Hebrew
> > essentially
> >  > resurrected as a language after it was nearly dead, used only in
> >  > temples/synogogues (DO, pls. fix spelling there; thanks). I mean,
> >  > hadn't Hebrew fallen entirely into rare use--similar to the
> > situation
> >  > with Latin before Vatican II? How do we know how close the
> >  > pronunciations are now to what they were a few thousand years
> ago?
> >  >
> >  > --J
> >
> >  The fact that Hebrew was used for religious purposes means that it
> was
> >  never dead. And being so well maintained, the language should be
> close
> >  to how it sounded two thousand years ago. But bear in mind, at that
> >  early time Hebrew was not the dominant Semetic language of the
> Middle
> >  East. (Nor was Arabic, for that matter.) Classical Aramaic was the
> >  dominant one. Interesting how this language has all but
> disappeared!
> >  They say it exists in a few villages in Syria.
> >
> >  An interesting language that has truly died off is Ancient
> Egyptian.
> >  We have an idea how it sounded, since we have figured out the
> >  consonants and consonantal clusters. But the vowels are unknown. So
> >  our best efforts to reproduce it would have to be off.
> >
> >
> >  John
> >
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