Re: The Circus has come to Town

From: dne44 <dne_at_dslextreme.com_at_hypermail.org>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 02:28:03 -0000

I would prefer Riordan to Davis, who is incredibly bland, as indebted
to corporate interests as most Republicans, and at the far right of
the Democratic spectrum.

That said, Davis has also been extremely unlucky and most of the
budgetary mess is not his fault. The dot-com bubble bursting and
resulting business flight (both from companies going under and others
moving out of the state because property costs have gotten so out of
hand) cost this state most of that money through lost taxes. The
energy crisis was not Favis' responsibility, and it's now clear that
the state was being cheated by the energy companies. Davis signed the
energy contracts under great duress (there was a huge outcry to do
something to guarantee that we had a regular supply of electricity,
and there really was a feeling that the price spiral might not have a
top).

So go ahead and lay any number of complaints at Davis' feet (beholden
to special interests, the Oracle scandal, a greater concern for his
own political future than for the state of California), but he is a
minor player in our state's current financial crisis, and any
Republican governor would be finding him or herself in a similar
fiscal hole.

The recall will be a circus and a waste of money, and while I won't
cry to see Davis go, our state will be more hurt than helped by the
recall, at least for the next 18 months.

- David.


--- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, "toughslush"
<meurtre_at_e...> wrote:
> I'll take Riordan or Schwarzenegger. More panache with the
> latter, and maybe a bit less of a need to toe the establishment
> line with respect to drug policy. Better experience with the
former,
> and maybe more of a commitment to staying in the job long-term
> (rather than going off to make another movie).
>
> Riordan has more experience in actually running things in a
> governmental capacity, but Arnold will likely get excellent
> advice--and he does have a business background. Fortunately,
> Riordan says he won't run if Arnie does.
>
> It's not a circus, boys and girls. It's serious: the state is
bleeding
> jobs, and there are teacher cuts left and right. Not good for
> teachers OR kids. We've spent the surplus on luxuries, and have
> nothing left for necessities. Thirty million on an election is
> nothing next to what Davis has pissed away--and will continue
> to, if he stays in power.
>
> And it ain't a partisan question at all: Davis' ineptness has
> nothing to do with him being a Democrat. He's a special breed of
> incompetent.
>
> FWIW, both Riordan and Arnold are considered "traitors," and
> "RINOs" [Republicans In Name Only] on the far right. They are
> both real centrists, and either one should be able to stop
> sending businesses out of the state--which would put more
> people back to work.
>
> Lenny: As I understand it, there will be two questions on the
> ballet: 1) are you for recalling Davis, and 2) whom do you want in
> the governor's office? I don't know if you can answer No, and still
> go on to vote for a new governor. I wouldn't see why you'd want to
> do it though, when you admit the state's in serious trouble.
>
> --Q.M.
>
>
> --- In OliveStarlightOrchestra_at_yahoogroups.com, "7visions"
> <7visions_at_p...> wrote:
> > What fun.
> >
> > So a bunch of grumpy summer heat-exhausted yahoos in
> exurban shopping malls have pulled it off. We are actually going
> to spend 30 Million on this recall election. This while schools,
> health care, environmental protection, and you name it goes
> begging.
> >
> > And the worst of it is that I have be on the same side as Gray
> Davis, a man with utterly no conviction to any cause other than
> Gray Davis..(.I just love how he quickly switched sides on many
> issues after shunning the liberals for nearly five years...NOW he
> needs us)
> >
> > But this liberal is saying right now: Give us the Terminator. He
> is better for schools, the environment and probably a lot more. I
> am against the recall, and will vote against it on principle, but
will
> not shed many tears for the Gray One if he gets Totally Recalled.(
> Can I vote against the recall AND vote for the Terminator too?
> Does anyone know?)
> >
> > Let me point the finger of blame for this gigantic mess, if I
can,
> to one more place..... LOCAL TV NEWS.....
> >
> > Once upon a time, local news was sane, and so was the
> government. But then, in the spirit of that true American religion,
> GREED, they realized that they could make more money by
> focusing on car chases, gruesome crimes, and T&A, ( not to
> mention promo tie-ins with entertainment that was airing on the
> same network O & O station). They dared not cover DULL things
> like Sacramento....( schools, roads, health care, BORING!!!!!!!!!)
> And when some of us complained that they were dumbing down
> the people for ratings we were called ELITISTS...and un-
> AMURICAN) Of course, they WOULD be covering election night,
> and would have the CHUTZPAH to lambaste us for not voting,
> even though they had NOT covered it at all.
> >
> > Well cheer up! THIS recall WILL be covered, especially if Arnold
> runs. The circle has closed....
> >
> > And WHY?
> >
> > Because real life HAS become a circus! Politics IS now as
> entertaining as car chases. In fact, how many car chases and
> explosions have been in Terminator films????? See my point?
> >
> > As for T & A, I did hear that Angelyne is running ( No joke)
> >
> > Just love it!
> >
> > Lenny
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Received on 2003-07-26 19:28:10